Othais and mae delve into the story of this wwi classic. Luger lp08 1915 dwm artillery model made by dwm in 1915 for german army machine gun and artillery units 9mm luger caliber. This web site is entitled to support the new book the parabellum is back. Artillery luger lange pistole 08 with 32 round trommelmagazin mm parabellum mm parabellum acp. The more you know about the luger models you are pursuing, the more confidence, success and fun you will have in your collecting. Spyplanes, the luger, and the royal field artillery three. Both books look like they will do just fine although i hope there is some.
Luger the story of the worlds most famous handgun by john walter the history press isbn. Spyplanes, the luger, and the royal field artillery. After wwi, two mexican designers adapted a fullauto version of the artillery luger which functioned reliably, but had an uncontrollably high cyclic rate of fire. It is hot stamped in 24k gold foil on a solid black hard cover binding with a library hard spine. Luger pistol the propaganda photo series used book in good condition. In 1914 dwm produced a very few artillery models when the decision was made for the royal arsenal at erfurt to produce the 8 parabellum and dwm to produce the 4 version. In 1907, german artillery units requested the development of a pistolcarbine to replace the obsolete. Jan 21, 2018 yes, the 1911 was designed for full parts interchangeability from the beginning. The proper name is luger pistol and not luger p08 pistol hence, the luger was called p08 pistole 08 in the german army but p06 in the swiss army. With color photos of artillery rigs and pistols, a history of the. But after 100 years, the 1911 still soldiers on, and not for nothing.
I believe it is authentic, however, as i know these are uncommon, i wanted to post it to get some opinions. The luger snail drum and other accessories for the artillery model. Luger collecting advice gun digest books guns prices. It is all original, number matching inside and out inclu for sale by misterluger on gunsamerica 941565154. The imperial proofs are well struck and tell the story of the gun. In world war i, as submachine guns were found to be effective in trench warfare. Every page is a beautiful picture of a luger and its history.
What situations would the artillery luger have been used in. Even if you dont collect the longbarreled artillery luger pistols, this book is a fascinating read. This book explained to me how artillery weapons work and about their origins. It does not break down, and no parts are compatible with a real artillery luger. In the luger book that i am looking at, it shows that it is a 1914 military. The ebay seller has expanded on the description as originally featured on page 259 in e. After georgs birth, his family moved to italy, where dr. The barrel inside is shiny with distinctive lands and grooves. With color photos of artillery rigs and pistols, a history of the development of the artillery luger, development of the snail drum magazine, loading tools, holster information, and lp08 mag pouch info it is a plethora of facts and photos. I know that the 1914 dwm lp08s are rare i think i read in a post on this forum that the. Colt 1911 early model 1918 45 acp wwii us property. According to brad simpson the book will be available in november. Its worth greatly depends on what variant it is, what caliber its in, when it was manufactured, and what its condition is.
I do recommend the book, but not before you buy a kindle edition of the luger catalog. Luger 1917 dwm artillery 9mm wholsterstock, 8 tapered barrel, shiny bore, good rifling, blued finish, adjustable rear sight to 800 meters, blade front sight, all matching numbers inside. I cant tell you folks how much fun i had shooting this thing. In the case of an artillery luger, however, it is also very, very important to note whether the number on. Used, showing wear to the black paint finish and some surface patina. Hi all although ive been collecting miltary rifles for years, i am a complete newbie when it comes to lugers.
Serialization date of manufacture from the blue book. The luger snail drum and other accessories for the artillery model luger. This book contains more than 190 photos and describes various models and accessories. The pistole parabellumor parabellumpistole pistol parabellum, commonly known as just. One of the first semiautomatic pistols, the luger was. Hello, i have an opportunity to purchase a 1914 dwm lp08. Jul 26, 2017 hugo borchardt and georg luger come across as a genuinely interesting characters and the legend of their handiwork lives on. This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the axis nations and related topics hosted by the axis history factbook in cooperation with christian ankerstjernes panzerworld and christoph awenders ww2 day by day.
This video is about one of the canadian gun vaults most favourite designsthe iconic p08 luger pistol. The famous infantry sturmtruppen employed the artillery luger equipped with a new large magazine the trommelmagazine. The book rambles and drifts into other guns, but some of the original catalogmanual pages make it worth owning. Seems that lugers and broomhandles were quite popular with some turnofthe century lawmen. New guy here who just received a 1916 dwm artillery luger. Luger artillery stock with holster luger navy stock without holster. I dont have a camera to take pictures, but it has about 94% of the rust blue in good shape with a splotch of tan by the 1917 date. Loop vintage german p38 luger post war holster leather bund ms 74 9mm pist 38.
Hugo borchardt and georg luger come across as a genuinely interesting characters and the legend of their handiwork lives on. Luger pistol meant for hitler assassination war historical photos luger pistol, revolvers. The luger artiglieria is the first book totally focused in this luger variation. There is some history and a lot on all accessories, which, of course, is what makes this gun so fascinating. Online shopping from a great selection at books store. After over 6 years of research from original archival material comes the book. I just wrote a term paper on artillery for my history class.
The above comments are from the ebay auction description of which the subject holster was acquired. The description never mentioned it, and now i am afraid i may end up with a piece of junk. Jun 01, 2012 the only complaints i have about this book is that the text may seem dry at times and some of the technological innovations are hard to visualize without illustrations the picture section in the middle is almost useless for this purpose. The distinctive look of the luger and its role in german military history make it the worlds most famous handgun. See more ideas about luger pistol, hand guns and guns and ammo. The luger long also better known as luger artillery was adopted by the german army on july 3, 19. Hello, new guy here who just received a 1916 dwm artillery luger. Since it is 1916 dated gun, it can only be a dwm made pistol, as erfurt only made 1914 dated artillery lugers. A veteran of two world wars, these workhorses served on land, sea, and air, and were a prized war. Models 1900 to 1908, markings, variants, ammunition, accessories great guns of the world.
I have done several hours of research online and have found the pistol to have matching numbers except the magazine. Georg luger was born in steinach am brenner, tyrol to dr. The luger snail drum and other accessories for the artillery. What a lot fewer people know about is the third major german military version of the luger. German wwi artillery luger new made nonfiring pistol lange. This standard short barrel pistol was issued to a horse artillery unit prior to the first world war. Robert simpson is identical to the to the 1929 stoeger ad no. The reason it can be completely disassembled with no tools the grip screws can be removed with the front lip of the magazine floorplate is to allow armorers to make repairs in the field by simple parts replacement. My focus is on use of the 1911, not collecting, but i am a student of history and the history of the 1911 in use for what it was intended is one of sublime success. There is some pitting and most of the finish is gone, and the sideplate is mismatched. The artillery luger represents an historical milestone in the development and.
Hes published in outside and backpacker and has written a book on life in smalltown alaska, north by southeast. Lange pistole 08 artillery luger the adoption of the lange pistole 08 or lp 08, aka the artillery luger, was authorised by the kaiser on the 2 july 19. Our french printed book on the luger pistol you will find the index. Jun 19, 2017 this video is about one of the canadian gun vaults most favourite designsthe iconic p08 luger pistol.
It is 9mm with an 8 200mm barrel, artillery model with the 800 meter adjustable rear sight mounted on the barrel. Shop our selection of luger pistols from the worlds premier auctions and galleries. In 1907, german artillery units requested the development of a pistol carbine to replace the obsolete. The luger carbine was well known the kaiser hunted with one, so the idea for a long barreled pistol with a stock was an easy jump to make. It has a knurled toggle, no grip safety, a stock lug, chambered in 9mm, wood checkered grip, non matching magazine with a wooden bottom, safe is to the rear and labeled gesichert. Apr 12, 2017 a blast to shoot had a miss feed but still alot of fun. The title of this book is pistole parabellum history of the luger system and it was written by geoffrey l sturgess, joachim gortz, blake stevens editor. Whatever flavors of the luger trip your trigger, learn as much as you can about those models, their markings, and the history around that era.
It is a shame that your artillery model was stolen. My goal is to eventually acquire a complete artillery luger rig. The collecting of 1911s is a joy and a field all to itself. Luger pistol, mauser c96 broomhandle pistols and accessories. Germanys longbarreled artillery luger combines firepower, elegance and. Bore is lightly pitted and dark, but still has strong rifling. Lugers at random by charles kenyon lugers at random has long been considered the top reference book on luger pistols by collectors and researchers alike. Site focused on the artillery luger pistol and mauser parabellum made after wwii. Artillery luger value the firearms forum the buying. The bottom of the barrel i can tell you is that a functioning luger has never sold for any less than 1200 usd from all th.
If you are interested in the history of pistol design and development this book is definitely one for you. This book contains more than 190 photos and describes various models and. Apr 17, 2009 whatever flavors of the luger trip your trigger, learn as much as you can about those models, their markings, and the history around that era. How to determine the value of a 1917 erfurt german luger. Folks who have a passing interest in the guns will probably know about both the standard army model the p08 and the longbarreled artillery model the lp08, with its shoulder stock and snail drum magazine accessories. Pistole parabellum history of the luger system by geoffrey. Matching magazine number can increase the price significantly. The borchardt pistol explained click here to download ebooks content. What is the value of an artillery luger such as this as a shooter. Im not too picky when it comes to refinished refurbished mismatched guns, and repro stocks and leather. Pistole parabellum, figure 45 caption description states that the pictured mauser c96 style holsterstock made, in this case, for an artillery luger, courtesy. A real luger,made by the proper manufacturer,in good or pristine condition,with original accessories is worth a fortune. Like all of the p08s though it was prone to stoppages. John walter is a renowned authority on handguns and has published more than sixty books.
Lange pistole 08 artillery luger the adoption of the lange pistole 08 or lp 08, aka the artillery luger, was authorized by the kaiser on the 2nd of july 19. It was mainly intended to specific troops as garrison protection or artillery. The multinational pistol standard edition by charles kenyon. The finish is in good shape and i believe based on my online research to be the original finish. The special introduction, guns of battle, by tom johnson historian and collector, sets the pace for this wonderfully authored book by russell c. This is a 1914 model, built in the early 20s for a. In 1914 dwm produced a very few artillery models when the decision was made for the royal arsenal at erfurt to produce the. Most current american saamispec 9x19 ammo is loaded fairly light, roughly 1,150fps with a. It is one of those designs, like john moses brownings 1911, that has proved to be ageless.
Comprising an editors preface, authors foreword, introduction, sixtythree chapters of profusely illustrated text plus a bibliography, glossary, and comprehensive 34page index, this is the most complete and authoritative account ever published of every aspect of the pistole parabellum the worlds most collectable handgun. Jul 11, 2014 first of all, your luger looks to be in original condition, based on the photographs you had provided. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration. The rear sight of the artillery luger is graduated out to 800 meters nearly a halfmile.
It is a beautifully balanced handgun and a pleasure to fire. The luger pistol was accepted by the imperial german navy in 1904 in 9mm parabellum. The reality is im on a budget, so i need to do the best i can with it. I found an artillery luger locally and im trying to place its value.
To the best of our knowledge, all the examples shown are original pre1945 manufacture. Luger pricing and reference gun digest books guns prices. The luger or parabellum pistol is perhaps one of the most recognizable semiautomatics in history. In addition to magazine sensitivity, the luger pistol is also ammunition sensitive as well. When i was a child my younger brother was given a cast of a luger artillery model and i was one jealous boy. Luger artillery model with the rare trommelmagazin 08 snail drum magazine 32 rounds compatible with the bergmann submachine gun. The only problem is that the stock lug has been ground off.
George luger s pistol is one of the most desirable handguns ever made. With a pricing guide and a keen eye, you can determine a value for the 1917 erfurt german luger. The luger snail drum and other accessories for the artillery model luger by edward c. Facebook is showing information to help you better understand the purpose of a page. Benders book luger holsters and their accessories of the 20th century. Get the 74th edition of the worlds greatest gun book.
Unfortunately,there is a lot of crappy postwar lugers and copies made by low quality factories. The dwm insuring the balance of the production throughout the world war i. Dec 02, 2014 as to the lugers popularity in the latter days of the old west, it is interesting to note that the legendary tom horn was arrested by a lugertoting sheriff. Cedric was a professional mountain guide and backcountry expedition leader for 18 years. Georg grew up with italian as his second mother tongue and finished grundschule primary school and gymnasium universitypreparatory school in. He worked in russia, iceland, greece, turkey and belize. A veteran of two world wars, these workhorses served on land, sea, and air, and were a prized war trophy for returning doughboys and g. The full equipment of one of these pistols includes adjustable sights out to 800metres, a drift adjustable front sight, leather holster with wooden shoulder stock and magazine pouches, and even an optional snail magazine. Original metal adaptor for use on the bergmann mp18 sub machine gun, to use the snail drum magazine as issued with the luger lp08 artillery model pistols. Lugers that are available today can be found in various qualities from wellmaintained in near mint condition, to badly damaged and eroded guns.
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